I wanted to just offer my view of internal arts and wing chun.
Studying the 3 treasures is the foundation of my Gung fu. Bagua is an amazing art built on circular motion . The internal power emanate from the hip, twisting is the key. Hsing I, oppositely , is based on the spear movements, and it works on circular or angular attacks in a linear fashion , meaning it has simultaneous things going on. It’s common with wing chun in that respect as well as the “intent” aspects. Tai chi was a beautifully designed system with both bagua and hsing i in mind. Some say they developed seperate but I see tai chi as the fusion of the other two. The internal arts aren’t just “internal “ in how I have read it used often . The higher states of consciousness do allow you to manipulate chi in a real way (I’m talking pushing your opponent without a touch, turning out a light with a snap , levitation, etc though those are extreme examples most don’t attain or believe). My experience is neigong and chikung are indeed miraculous and nothing can compare to what these arts produce except maybe yoga but yoga doesn’t have the self defense aspect
Point being : wing chun took some of the Taoist arts , put in all of the shaolin arts, and they devised a nearly perfect system from a-z. It is a complete system devoid of extras because you have the freedom to do anything you want . People think wing Chun is limited but it’s actually the most expansive system I have tried. Sure wutang technically collectively has hundreds of techniques and subsequently very long forms and countless weapons (well something like 2 dozen right Xue?) so mastering Taoist arts really requires a lifetime of practice with the same master
Wing chun is efficient in that it has 6 forms: 3 empty hand, 2 weapons and a dummy form. They are only about 3 minutes long give or take a minute and they seem simple. But they are building slowly, and when you reach BG the internal art of wing chun is revealed
Structurally the internal power from the hip is not understated. It is almost hipwork. But keep practice and the form becomes meditative . Chi sau is one interesting two man exceerxise where chi kung is felt like with push hands . There is an external form and an Internal movement of chi.
In my opinion, wutang is the original 3 internal arts. But shaolin does have at least one in wing chun. You have to feel it to understand but wing chun is the fourth internal art, and it is Chan which is very cool , rather than Taoist, making it a bit more universal
It’s amazing really that not many have said it definitively. It is not Taoist or wutang but den mak is one welll known example of internal nei gong of wing chun
Any wing chun guys out there ever see this way?
Studying the 3 treasures is the foundation of my Gung fu. Bagua is an amazing art built on circular motion . The internal power emanate from the hip, twisting is the key. Hsing I, oppositely , is based on the spear movements, and it works on circular or angular attacks in a linear fashion , meaning it has simultaneous things going on. It’s common with wing chun in that respect as well as the “intent” aspects. Tai chi was a beautifully designed system with both bagua and hsing i in mind. Some say they developed seperate but I see tai chi as the fusion of the other two. The internal arts aren’t just “internal “ in how I have read it used often . The higher states of consciousness do allow you to manipulate chi in a real way (I’m talking pushing your opponent without a touch, turning out a light with a snap , levitation, etc though those are extreme examples most don’t attain or believe). My experience is neigong and chikung are indeed miraculous and nothing can compare to what these arts produce except maybe yoga but yoga doesn’t have the self defense aspect
Point being : wing chun took some of the Taoist arts , put in all of the shaolin arts, and they devised a nearly perfect system from a-z. It is a complete system devoid of extras because you have the freedom to do anything you want . People think wing Chun is limited but it’s actually the most expansive system I have tried. Sure wutang technically collectively has hundreds of techniques and subsequently very long forms and countless weapons (well something like 2 dozen right Xue?) so mastering Taoist arts really requires a lifetime of practice with the same master
Wing chun is efficient in that it has 6 forms: 3 empty hand, 2 weapons and a dummy form. They are only about 3 minutes long give or take a minute and they seem simple. But they are building slowly, and when you reach BG the internal art of wing chun is revealed
Structurally the internal power from the hip is not understated. It is almost hipwork. But keep practice and the form becomes meditative . Chi sau is one interesting two man exceerxise where chi kung is felt like with push hands . There is an external form and an Internal movement of chi.
In my opinion, wutang is the original 3 internal arts. But shaolin does have at least one in wing chun. You have to feel it to understand but wing chun is the fourth internal art, and it is Chan which is very cool , rather than Taoist, making it a bit more universal
It’s amazing really that not many have said it definitively. It is not Taoist or wutang but den mak is one welll known example of internal nei gong of wing chun
Any wing chun guys out there ever see this way?