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That might be the first time I've heard headhunter be accused of being too diplomatic
But what he said is basically right. There are too many unknowns involved, about the fights the "street" guy has been in, the quality/type of karate training the other guy has been in, and the luck involved with the actual fights. If I was a betting man, I wouldn't be betting either way on that fight, with just the info you gave.
I mean real fights. Not sports
You're right my friend I couldOr you could just answer the question.
Because in sports you play the game. You listen to the referee you stop when the time runs out you don't foul. You get a 1 minute rest period and the match is stopped if you get hurt to badlyWhy does the result become random in a real fight? So what changes?
Where is any evidence at all that a real fight is just a case of random chance?
The thing is we don't know the quality of the tourney karate guys training. It could be legitimate training and tournaments, or it could be a mcdojo with point tournaments with three people in the circuit, and the other two forty years older than him.I think people are blowing out the idea of uncertainty a bit.
If you can fight you will probably win more fights than if you can't.
If you are trained to fight you will probably be able to fight better than if you can't.
And street fights are not coin tosses.
Okay....I mean you're wrong but okay yeah a pro boxer and pro Mma fighter never had a days training lolAnd since you won't come, we'll proceed with the discussion as if Kimbo Slice was not trained.
Let me give you a scenario....
John Doe is a 30 year old average size male who has never been in a real fight. He is walking down the street when a street thug who loves to fight decides to attack him.
Would John Doe be better off if:
A) He has had no MA training
B) He has MA training
Although you might not can handle the Kimbo Slice type fighter....with MA training you might fair a little better against him...you at least increase your chance some.
Okay lol really doesn't make any difference to meUntil you refute what I'm saying, it's going to stand.
Jeez this is all getting very over complicated. Why does this fake situation really matter? You can't predict a real fights outcome so how can we predict a fake fight lol? Seriously is there a reason you are asking this? Are you doubting your own training and looking for validation that what you train is legit?Good response. But there's something quite disturbing about it, and I'll explain. But let's changethings up a little bit.
In the scenario I presented, and in John Doe's case, we're talking about someone who has never been in a real fight before.
Let's talk about a scenario of someone who has. We'll call him Mike. Let's say that Mike wasa good kid growing up, and could probably count the number of real fights he's been in on his fingers. He was an average sized kid who could hold his own against other kids his own size, but was in serious trouble if he ever pissed off a jock.
In the case of John Doe and the hypothetical karateka I mentioned, they didn't know how to do something as simple as kick or punch before martial arts training, and now they do.
In Mike's case, he already had "something" before starting martial arts training. But that "something" isn't even close what the thug has by a long shot.
Does traditional karate put him over?
Good response. But there's something quite disturbing about it, and I'll explain. But let's changethings up a little bit.
In the scenario I presented, and in John Doe's case, we're talking about someone who has never been in a real fight before.
Let's talk about a scenario of someone who has. We'll call him Mike. Let's say that Mike wasa good kid growing up, and could probably count the number of real fights he's been in on his fingers. He was an average sized kid who could hold his own against other kids his own size, but was in serious trouble if he ever pissed off a jock.
In the case of John Doe and the hypothetical karateka I mentioned, they didn't know how to do something as simple as kick or punch before martial arts training, and now they do.
In Mike's case, he already had "something" before starting martial arts training. But that "something" isn't even close what the thug has by a long shot.
Does traditional karate put him over?
Jeez this is all getting very over complicated. Why does this fake situation really matter? You can't predict a real fights outcome so how can we predict a fake fight lol? Seriously is there a reason you are asking this? Are you doubting your own training and looking for validation that what you train is legit?
The thing is we don't know the quality of the tourney karate guys training. It could be legitimate training and tournaments, or it could be a mcdojo with point tournaments with three people in the circuit, and the other two forty years older than him.
And the street guy could have a ton of experience. Or he could just be fighting a bunch of out of shape dudes that he hits with a brick from behind. Without knowing the quality of the dudes training, or the quality of the other dudes fighting experience, we don't know.
Ok. Then you take the spirit of the question and start putting conditions on it until you have some sort of sensible answer.
Rather than engaging in this self indulgent martial arts ineffable nonsense.
Which is one of the reasons so many people have such crap preparation for any sort of conflict.
Well when your question is this silly there really isn't an answer....basically your question is the same as: who'd win in a fight between Kung fu panda and master splinter from teenage mutant ninja turtles. This's basically what this question isUsually, when they keep asking for more info like that, they have no intention of ever answering the question.
Because in sports you play the game. You listen to the referee you stop when the time runs out you don't foul. You get a 1 minute rest period and the match is stopped if you get hurt to badly
In the real world you do what you want. You don't get a 5 minute rest period if you get kicked in the nuts or poked in the eye. You can't look to the ref to save you and call in a doctor to make sure you're okay. You're not fighting a man the same size as you. I've witnessed hundreds of street fights working on the nightclub doors and never do they like a Conor McGregor highlight reel or a Muhammad Ali match. Go look around online. Real fights don't look anything like sports