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I don't see variations like that as changing the core of an art. If that's all that's different, it's a variation of Hapkido. The same basic principles are used, and they've introduced some new material. I don't think an art should stay static at the point the founder left it - most of them weren't "done" with what they wanted to develop in the art, anyway.Based on your avatar, I assume you are a member of the group in the videos. So I mean no disrespect by this, but my personal opinion is that most of what I saw was not Hapkido.
Hapkido is the art of Choi Yong Sul. Which in turn was his interpretation of martial practices he studied during his life. Jabs, crosses, hooks, and such with gloves/shin guards were not part of Choi's practice. It's fine if we do those things, cross train, work with people from other arts etc but those things are their own things with their own names, but I wouldn't say Hapkido.
I am glad you guys are trying to develop yourselves as martial artists and improve your own methods and ideas, and wish you best of luck otherwise!
I don't see variations like that as changing the core of an art. If that's all that's different, it's a variation of Hapkido. The same basic principles are used, and they've introduced some new material. I don't think an art should stay static at the point the founder left it - most of them weren't "done" with what they wanted to develop in the art, anyway.
Boxing originally included grappling work (some of the folks here are well-versed in the history). Is it no longer boxing, since it lost that? Or would adding some back in would make it no longer boxing?I personally disagree. If I add double leg take downs to boxing, I'm no longer practicing boxing; boxing is the art of fighting with the hands and I am no longer "doing boxing". I'm doing something different. This different thing isn't any better or worse than boxing, it's just now it's "own thing". But telling you "well it's just practical boxing" wouldn't be accurate.
I personally disagree. If I add double leg take downs to boxing, I'm no longer practicing boxing; boxing is the art of fighting with the hands and I am no longer "doing boxing". I'm doing something different. This different thing isn't any better or worse than boxing, it's just now it's "own thing". But telling you "well it's just practical boxing" wouldn't be accurate.
"Practical" is the new "Tactical". It's marketing language.I already thought hapkido was a practical art. Calling this "practical hapkido" is just a bit pretentious to me.
It would be like saying "sport MMA".
Who cares what they added? They are evolving, it's better than standing still.
Really? Is this the best you can do to nitpick? Come on.......
@Pentti cool video's, it's good to see people adjusting their traditional art and evolving rather than sticking in the past, like gpsseymour said.
Not the best I can do. Just low hanging fruit.
Let me rephrase. Calling this "practical" implies that other hapkido is not practical. Which, since hapkido doesn't seem to have an art or sport component, and is in fact purely self defense techniques, means that Hapkido is practical.
To call a school "practical Hapkido" means you think that other Hapkido is not practical, which is either an insult (saying the only thing it does, it doesn't even do) or shows a lack of understanding of Hapkido.
We haven't seen any "practical" clips from you so..........
maybe you should show your "deadly" techniques, againts tiles? Like you avatar LOL
Again, OP, Keep up the good work and don't let these jealous....so called "practical" people get to you
No not staker-ish, I'm just stating facts that I haven't seen any clips from you, and that I doubt they would be more "practical" then the OP posted
Ok maybe concrete, but do they hit back......
They just named their school "Practical Hapkido" who are you to judge what their motives are?
I did some breaking in past don't worry, but soon I found out that breaking stuff is ********.
Now that's out of the way, maybe next time you should consider starting with the bold part in the quote rather than whining about a name......???
Why break out the "you must be jealous" card?We haven't seen any "practical" clips from you so..........maybe you should show your "deadly" techniques, againts tiles? Like you avatar LOL
Again, OP, Keep up the good work and don't let these jealous....so called "practical" people get to you
He said the same thing I did. "Practical" is marketing language. Neither of us said there was anything wrong with using it. Schools need students - commercial ones more so than non-commercial, but any program needs students to continue being a program.No not staker-ish, I'm just stating facts that I haven't seen any clips from you, and that I doubt they would be more "practical" then the OP posted
Ok maybe concrete, but do they hit back......
They just named their school "Practical Hapkido" who are you to judge what their motives are?