Apparently Master Wong doesn't want to exploit his own teacher's name for his own benefit. He doesn't want to be "name dropping" because he is such a modest and humble fellow! :uhyeah:
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Every branch of wc has their own movements, and modified forms of movements.---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Imitationwing chun IMO- check his so called chi sao video.
Being athlet5ic looking does not make it wing chun. IMO.
He speaks English with a Chinese/ British accent, because at ten years old he moved from Vietnam to England, and has lived in England most of his life.Why aren't his videos flagged for mature audiences? The guy is pretty freely dropping f-bombs throughout the videos.
Also, is he speaking English with a Chinese-british accent? Just curious about that. I like listening to Renzo Gracie speak English, because he speaks with a bit of his Brazilian accent crossed with some New York. It's a cool mix.
Every branch of wc has their own movements, and modified forms of movements.
Though the techniques may differ slightly, the application of the principles should be universal.
I for one like his style,...
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Imitationwing chun IMO- check his so called chi sao video.
Being athlet5ic looking does not make it wing chun. IMO.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------I have no opinion of his Wing Chu nor do I feel I am qualified to, however you are qualified and I respect your view. Also I really do not understand why, when asked, he just doesn't say "My sifu was....." that is not doing anything based on his sifu's reputation. There are a lot of people out there with lineages to Yang Chengfu or the current Yang family who are horrible at Yang Taijiquan. There are those that are impressed by lineage and those that look a little closer at the skill. Lineage is, IMO, important to root out the occasional fake but they are no measure of skill and understanding. Heck I know a guy that is claiming lineage to a (deceased) famous Taiji sifu and he did likely train with him but I doubt that sifu ever considered him a student. I trained with Chen Zhenglei but he would not know me and certainly would not consider me a student or part of the Chen family lineage...but I am sure there are a few that were there and trained with him that are claiming it.
I just went to his website to see if he had an answer.
His Taiji is not that good either and he really does not understand it based on what I saw but then he really does not care what I think either.
So that should narrow down his lineage. Until very recently the UK Wing Chun community was fairly restricted. Most of the senior players trace their lineage through Ip chun, Ip Ching, Wong Shun Leung, Victor Kam, Leung Ting and Lee Shing through various routes and pretty much all of it until recently was Ip Man derived. More recent introductions have come in the guise of mainland lineages and folks like Alan Orr etc and there are one or two other key individuals teaching Wing Chun as part of a broader kung fu syllabus. Maybe this will help you in your quest.He speaks English with a Chinese/ British accent, because at ten years old he moved from Vietnam to England, and has lived in England most of his life.
I have been doing research on master wong's w/c style. He won't say his lineage, but his movements are the same as the Pan Nam lineage movements. And yes, I am a student of his.
Wing Chun practitioners IMO fall into two basic categories.
1. those that use the movements with physical muscle and physical speed to get the job done.
2. those that use the movements with the least amount of physical muscle and physical speed to get the job done.
the difference between the two is huge. the first example is almost always brought about because of a lack of understanding of "structure", that's why in order to make their wing chun work, they have to get physical.
the second example must have an understanding of "structure" or else they would never be able to get their wing chun to work. obviously, this way is more in line with a "woman's martial art" and "using the least amount of (physical) effort to get the job done".
to understand the "structure" of wing chun, means to understand the concepts and principles. there is no short cut or way to avoid it.
Sometime you don't want to tell your students who your WC teacher is. Here is one example.
You learned WC from teacher A. You come to teacher B and fall in love with his art X and you become deciple of teacher B. After you have finished learning style X with teacher B, you start your own school. In your school you teach both style X and WC. Since your WC did not come from your teacher B, in order to respect your teacher B, you won't mention teacher A's name.
What I have just described did happen.
The problem may be:Why would you not simply say " The X I teach comes from B, and the WC I teach comes from A"? Surely there is no disrepect to either teacher to acknowledge what you learned from each. To my mind, it seems disrepectful of A not to recognise the value of what you learned from him. Especially if you're teaching it to others.
The problem may be:
- teacher A and teacher B don't get along.
- teacher A is one or more generation below teacher B.
Here are 2 examples:
Person X mentions his style A teacher infront of his style B teacher. His style B teacher said, "Your style A teacher is one generation below me. He would call me teacher. Now you call him as your teacher infront of me as if he and I are on the same generation".
B is C's teacher. B takes C to meet B's teacher A. C then learns directly under A and becomes A's disciple. Should C call B as "teacher" or "brother"?
B is C's teacher. B takes C to meet B's teacher A. C then learns directly under A and becomes A's disciple. Should C call B as "teacher" or "brother"?