Wing Chun?

[mpossoff]

Hi all was watching something on tv and it was Silat and it looked alot like Wing Chun. What style is that and is there any schools in Philadelpia, PA?

Marc

 

[tellner]

There are hundreds, maybe thousands of kinds of Silat. And people tend to fit new things into categories they already have. So someone who is familiar with Wing Chun might see something he recognizes and say "Silat is like Wing Chun" even if the resemblance isn't even skin deep.

It's hard to say what kind of Silat it was or whether it was what you think it was.

Sorry not to be of more help.

 

[mpossoff]

Hi found out...Lian Padukan

Marc

 

[silat]

Hi found out...Lian Padukan

Marc

Mark,

You must have seen a clip from Human Weapon the "Silat" episode.

Yes, Lian Padukan has some Wing Chun in it as well as Muay Thai (Tomoi) but Human Weapon screwed up the dates that Lian Padukan was founded and what brought about the style.

They said it was founded like in 1969 after the Chinese & Malaysian civil uprising when in fact Lian Padukan was founded in the 1800's some hundred years before they state on the show and it had nothing to do with feuds between the Chinese & Malaysians. It was one man who studied different arts and combined them to create his personal fighting system.

Sincerely,
Teacher: Eddie Ivester

 

[Doc_Jude]

Eddie with the save, again!

 

[Rambutan]

Hi, guys. Just to add a little more, Lian Padukan is one of the buah pukul styles of silat from southern Malaysia. They all trace their origin back to Syed Abdul Rahman Al-yunani, reputedly a Chinese muslim, who visited Singapore/Malaysia back in the late 1890s. Cutting a long story short, he got into a fight and his skills were so impressive that the the Sultan of Johor sent Awang Daik, the High Commissioner of Mersing (and supposed Sunting adept) and the Muar Chief of Police, Pak Long Muhammad Yassin (possibly a Sendeng stylist) to meet Al-yunani. The result was a blending of what was most probably originally a very direct Chinese martial art (don't forget Ng Mui fled to the mountains bordering Yunan, so there just might be a Wing Chun connection...) with Malay silat. The result was a number of different Buah Pukul schools. Muhammad bin Chik (better known as Pak Mat Kedidi) studied Buah Pukul in the 1940s under a number of teachers, including Chu Aman. It was Chu Aman who then passed the lineage title to Pak Mat in the 1950s. Lian Padukan was founded by Pak Mat in around 1969/1970, and incorporated Buah Pukul with Tomoi Southern Thai boxing, plus perhaps some more Sendeng and Sunting. Pak Mat remains is the Guru Tua of Lian Padukan, but he passed the Nukil, the teaching rights, to Guru Muda Mohammed Hashyim in 1999. guru Hashyim has further refined the art from 99 forms to four juros and 16 lians, plus auxilliary exercises.

There are few practitioners of Lian Padukan in the West - just four or five of us teaching in the UK. Please check out the Living Tradition website for more information.