Which wing chun channels on youtube can you recommend?

[kehcorpz]

I have come across a few teaching channels but I don't know which ones are good.

Do you know Dominick Izzo? Is he good? I watched some of his videos.

 

[wckf92]

I have come across a few teaching channels but I don't know which ones are good.

Do you know Dominick Izzo? Is he good? I watched some of his videos.

Can't recommend any YT. Most are not that good IMO.
Izzo...don't know him, but from what little I've seen...I'd say he has a VERY limited knowledge of the WC system. Just my opinion.

 

[kehcorpz]

That's kinda disturbing. I have watched quite a few Izzo videos (of course I'm only a lay person) but to me it seemed as if he was pretty good.
Now if he's not good and I couldn't tell it then I also can't tell wether a teacher in real life is good or not.

For example in this video he demonstrates how to defend in different situation and the guy who attacks him looks pretty dangerous. I think he does aikido at the same school. He uses
the same channel.

 

[Phobius]

I think a good start is to trust people you meet in person slightly more than those online.

So meet teachers and talk with them. At that point it should be easier for you to answer who you could respect.

Also ask them about opinion on the other teachers nearby. Humble opinions for me was important.

 

[Flying Crane]

Online instruction is a very poor way to go. It is NOT better than nothing, even if the online instructor is actually good. Instruction over the Internet simply does not work.

You need direct, hands-on face-to-face instruction with a good teacher, on an ongoing basis. It is a relationship.

If there are no good instructors close by with whom you can train, then look for a good instructor in another system. That is much much better than online instruction just because you fell in love with a particular system that is not available to you.

If there are no good instructors of any style in your area, better to just spend your time on fitness: running, biking, swimming, weight-lifting, etc.

 

[kehcorpz]

You mean if they talk bad about other teachers then this is a red flag? Ok.

Finding a teacher sympathetic is important, but he could still teach a bad form.
I really have NO way of telling if something is good or not.

 

[Phobius]

You mean if they talk bad about other teachers then this is a red flag? Ok.

Finding a teacher sympathetic is important, but he could still teach a bad form.
I really have NO way of telling if something is good or not.

A sympathetic teacher is one thing. You probably want one that thinks figuring things out on your own is a good thing.

This gives you the option of moving on or try out new stuff if you feel doubt.

Problem is that the charismatic teacher could be the one best at tricking you so rather have an open mind and train somewhere you feel has nice environment. You can always switch in time when you know more what to look for.

Or ask here but not much help I can give without knowing anything else.

 

[kehcorpz]

But if a teacher is convinced of his stuff then he probably wont like it when students modify things. I mean this would be a direct criticism of his stuff.
That's like going to a doctor and then telling him that his diagnosis is nonsense. He'll be so pissed that he won't treat you anymore or not really care.

 

[MAfreak]

don't let it look like critique, just ask the question "please can you show me also a defense against when the attacker then does .....". then you see if the instructor is good or sucks.

 

[Phobius]

But if a teacher is convinced of his stuff then he probably wont like it when students modify things. I mean this would be a direct criticism of his stuff.
That's like going to a doctor and then telling him that his diagnosis is nonsense. He'll be so pissed that he won't treat you anymore or not really care.

Well I am not saying you have to do any of it. Perhaps wont work where you live.

I have a teacher that practically enforces us to go out and try other stuff as well. His thoughts on the matter is that his ways are far from the only ways. And he loves to find similarities between different solutions and analyze them deeper. Then again we are not very much for traditions. We learn our system completely as a foundation of course, to have a solid pillar to stand on.

Not all good teachers share that same attitude nor do they need to. But if you have doubts and there is no way for us to help identify if the teacher is good, perhaps if he is more open to trying other arts as well then you have easier time to test out other stuff when that time comes.

 

[Monkey Turned Wolf]

All of these worries you have are pointless. Essentially your issue is "Well, there's a chance he will be bad and I won't know, so I shouldn't go to anyone." We've told you plenty of ways to test this, and regardless of whether or not he is good, if you test yourself against other styles you will eventually find out. But thinking that maybe a teacher will be bad is not a good reason for you not to find one.

 

[kehcorpz]

A really good way to see how good the teacher really is would getting him in real fights or fights against other martial artists.
But is this usually done? I cant imagine it. A teacher wouldn't want to risk losing in front of his students.

What would do you if you had been in a wc school for a year and you think the teacher is good cause he knows all movements and he punishes
the wooden dummy like crazy and it looks super cool. but then he's confronted in his gym by somebody who trains something different and then a
fight breaks lose. as the fight is going on you notice that your teacher doesnt seem to be too happy and that he's really straining and always retreating
not getting any hits in.
as this point you probably begin to question if what you learned is really that good and helpful when your master struggles to not get beaten up.

masters from different schools should publicly fight against each other and then everyone can decide where he wants to go. this would be the best way
to find out what's good.

but if a trainer has nobody to challenge him and he's basically cruising at his school then cant improve either.
do they even try to improve and fight with members of other styles? or are they contempt being a teacher at their own stuff and
having reached a position of value?

 

[MAfreak]

then go to this criterion: the trainer should have experience in more than that one specific art.
for example he wasn't "just" karateka, but also judoka. not "just" kickboxer, but also wrestler.
so you can be sure, he knows also to handle with situations not typical in the specific style he teaches now.
my first karate-trainer was judoka and hapkidoin and brought this also into the training, which i really loved, except of the issues i see in karate itself.

 

[kehcorpz]

if an instructor had experience in different styles it would be good but how likely is this?
what if somebody only did 1 thing his entire life? i guess if you ask him did you only do this stuff and he says yes
he'll probably be pissed lol.

 

[futsaowingchun]

I like some of Gary Lam videos...

 

[Monkey Turned Wolf]

then go to this criterion: the trainer should have experience in more than that one specific art.
for example he wasn't "just" karateka, but also judoka. not "just" kickboxer, but also wrestler.
so you can be sure, he knows also to handle with situations not typical in the specific style he teaches now.
my first karate-trainer was judoka and hapkidoin and brought this also into the training, which i really loved, except of the issues i see in karate itself.

If I'm learning a style, I don't care if they know any other styles. Most people at a certain level do cross train, but it's definitely not a requirement for them to be able to teach their main style.

 

[MAfreak]

If I'm learning a style, I don't care if they know any other styles. Most people at a certain level do cross train, but it's definitely not a requirement for them to be able to teach their main style.

then do that, while i am going to response to what the op wants. this is not about main style but about effective self defense, so being flexible.

 

[Monkey Turned Wolf]

then do that, while i am going to response to what the op wants. this is not about main style but about effective self defense, so being flexible.

If a style is focused on self-defense, like krav, then there wouldn't be a need for the instructor to cross train assuming they are good at the self-defense style. And I feel like it would be more flexible to go to an instructor regardless of whether or not they practice multiple styles..having that requirement feels strict to me.
Also, I get the feeling OP just wants to learn WC rather than self defense at this point.

 

[MAfreak]

i'm not sure on that anyway haha.
well i personally would always like to learn a hybrid art (krav, mma or whatever) from someone who also learned this stuff in arts, which are specialised on it, like striking from muay thai or throwing from judo.
in case of this "in search of wing chun and/or self defense style"-thing, he wanted to know if it could be used also in not-wing chun situations or if the individual instructor could improvise and fit his wing chun, also for his students, on not-wing chun situations.

 

[Monkey Turned Wolf]

Fair enough in regards to the specialized learning-while I do that as well, if my concern was 100% self-defense, I wouldn'tr eally care as SD systems should teach you enough to keep you safe against streetfights as much of the time or more than MMA type styles.
For the Wing Chun, I would assume that practicitioners can use it in situations outside of WC/on non WC practitioners...if not there is a serious problem with either the situation or the way that the instructor is teaching it.