What US movie would trigger this event?

[Grenadier]

So far, no mention of which movie it was that triggered this rather... angry... response.

Egyptians angry at film scale U.S. embassy walls

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSBRE88A11N20120911?irpc=932

CAIRO (Reuters) - Egyptian protesters scaled the walls of the U.S. embassy on Tuesday, tore down the American flag and burned it during a protest over what they said was a film being produced in the United States that insulted Prophet Mohammad.
In place of the U.S. flag, the protesters tried to raise a black flag with the words "There is no God but God, and Mohammad is his messenger", a Reuters witness said.

Once the U.S. flag was hauled down, some protesters tore it up and showed off pieces to television cameras. Others burned the remains outside the fortress-like embassy building in central Cairo. But some protesters objected to the flag burning.

Many Muslims consider any depiction of the Prophet to be offensive.

"This movie must be banned immediately and an apology should be made," said 19-year-old Ismail Mahmoud, a member of the so-called "ultras" soccer supporters who played a big role in the uprising that brought down Hosni Mubarak last year.

 

[elder999]

So far, no mention of which movie it was that triggered this rather... angry... response.

Egyptians angry at film scale U.S. embassy walls

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSBRE88A11N20120911?irpc=932

I've tried finding it, it's an American produced short-film that was viewable on youtube, that depicts Muhammad as a fraud, shows him having sex and ordering massacres.

Many Muslims consider it pretty offensive to depict Muhammad at all, never mind in a way that insults him.

It's supposedly produced by US pastor Terry Jones nd co-produced by some Egyptian Copt expatriates. Egyptian protesters condemned what they said was the humiliation of the Prophet of Islam under the pretext of freedom of speech.

 

[granfire]

Terry Jones... rings familiar....

 

[elder999]

Terry Jones... rings familiar....

The Rev. Mr. Pastor Terry "Burn the Koran Day" Jones....

 

[Sukerkin]

It's not a polite thing to set out to insult someone's beliefs, I do agree but the reaction of the insulted goes to show just why it is that dogmatic religions are a dangerous thing - worse even than blind nationalism.

 

[WC_lun]

Lot of dumb*** to go around on this one. You scale the walls of an embassy, which is the same as invading that country, to get make a statement about some knucklehead's attempt to insult your religion. That's pretty freaking stupid. Also stupid is to make an movie about someone else's religion that you don't believe in to stir up crap. Are there no adults involved here? Islamic fanatics and Christian fanatics, yay.

 

[Tez3]

Should have been a film by the British Terry Jones....

 

[arnisador]

The Rev. Mr. Pastor Terry "Burn the Koran Day" Jones....

Ugh.

 

[Tez3]

Things got a whole load more serious and tragically it has cost American lives.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...a-killed-in-attack-on-Benghazi-consulate.html

 

[Tgace]

What's next...comedians cant make a joke involving Islam? Artists cant create works depicting Mohammed without mid-east nations rioting? Cartoonists get death threats? This is what people mean when they say that the Islamic extremists "hate our freedoms".

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[Big Don]

What's next...comedians cant make a joke involving Islam? Artists cant create works depicting Mohammed without mid-east nations rioting? Cartoonists get death threats? This is what people mean when they say that the Islamic extremists "hate our freedoms".

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My, aren't we intolerant of Islam. You must be one of those, whatchamacallits, oh, yeah, REASONABLE PEOPLE.
I especially like how the State Department apologized, and utterly failed to defend our embassies.

 

[WC_lun]

Niether party is in the right here. Violence as a protest form against a dumba** movie is deplorable. Making a movie directly instigating such a responce is just as deplorable. Just because you have the right to do something, does not mean you should, especially when it knowingly puts American's lives in danger. So congratulations to both the Muslim extremist in Lybia and Egypt, AND the extremist Christians/Jews who put together that trash movie. You show the rest of the world just how idiotic humans can be and promoted hate so very well. Most of the Muslims, Jews, and Christians I know believe thier religion is about peace and love. Amazing how a few knuckleheads can reduce them to the complete opposite.

 

[billc]

Sorry, but I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt here. Making of a youtube movie doesn't enter the same galaxy as the reaction on by the radical muslim killers. Trying to compare the two is just...well...I'll leave that so the moderators won't get involved. They killed 4 people and dragged them through the streets. They attacked two embassies, and a couple more may be attacked in two more countries. I get tired of the "she shouldn't have dressed like that if she didn't want to get attacked," mentality that comes out whenever something like this happens. Making a you tube video is not in any way even close to what the response was and it shouldn't even rationally be discussed like that. the party that made the movie aren't wrong here. The people who killed 4 people and attacked two embassies are wrong here, end of story. You don't kill people over a dumb movie. Period. Even saying they were dumb to have made this movie is going so far out to surrendering to these monsters that that way of thinking needs to stop. These guys who incited the killing need to be found by our government and dealt with...with,or more likely, without Libyan help. This should be the last day they ever sleep without the fear of Delta force operators kicking in their doors. That is how this should be dealt with, not blaming the movie makers.

 

[Big Don]

http://bcove.me/ekntmm4o
Listen to what Romney said, and what the wholly owned Obama Press Corps asks him.

 

[WC_lun]

Latest news is that the Lybia attack was a planned operation, using the protest over the movie as cover. This according to CNN.

Look, hate mongering is hate mongering and violence from either side due to the hate mongering is ignorant. You don't get a pass to be free from the responsibilities of your actions because you are free to do them. This movie was made in two hours for 2 million dollars. It does the very best it can to insult anyone who believes in Islam. Why do you think they did that? Why did they spend 2 million dollars to basically just insult Muslims?

The makers of that "movie" are equally responsible as those idiots that used the movie to incite the violence. This is exactly what those makers wanted to happen. It was planned, orchestrated, and paid for all with that one goal. That some Muslims were just as stupid to fall for it and do the violence does not excuse the movie makers. Anyone thinking it does, well we'll refer back to your moderator statement

 

[Master Dan]

look we can all go back and forth over the religous and free speach issues and such but what the F____ was going on with our security at the Embassy's we should have been killing these idiots like flys as they entered and if we are going to maintain US soil in these locations they need to be defended properly or we close them do we want to have hostages next?

 

[Sukerkin]

Any official reaction to this over there yet, gentlemen? I know what would happen if this were the C19th and it had been a British ambassador in the days of Empire but it's another world these days. Even so, I cannot imagine that a stiff diplomatic note will be sufficient to deal with such an outrageous act for such little reason.

EDIT: Dan, from what I read on the BBC, the embassy security forces did what they could but were overwhelmed, possibly because they didn't want to be responsible for a massacre.

Second edit: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-19577913

 

[Master Dan]

Go to this link or read the short explanation of who and what the film is.

‘Innocence of Muslims’: The film that may have sparkeddeadly U.S. Embassy attacks

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/innocence-muslims-film-sparked-deadly-u-embassy-attacks-142118931.html?_esi=1
The English-language film, portions of which have been online since July,attracted attention in Egypt only over the past few days when someone posted asegment of the movie that had been dubbed into Arabic, according to the New York Times. Some Egyptian TVhosts began airing clips of the film over and over,portraying it as a Coptic Christian and American plot to denigrate the prophet.(Morris Sadek, a Coptic Christian from Egypt and critic of Islam who now livesin the United States, told AP he recently began promoting the two-hour film,which might also explain its rise out of obscurity.) The amateur-seeming"Innocence of Muslims" film shows the Prophet Muhammad as ahomosexual who endorses extramarital sex and pedophilia, along with other slursagainst Islam. (Many Muslims consider physical or visual representations ofMuhammad to be blasphemous.)
Though at first it was unclear whomade the movie, the Wall Street Journal tracked down and interviewed Israeli-American real estate developer SamBacile, who said he wrote, directed and produced the film. The52-year-old Bacile told the Journal that he made the film to portray Islam as ahateful religion:

 

[WC_lun]

I'm not going to critisize security at this point. In Lybia the attack came from outside the compound by rpg fire. In Egypt, those climbing the walls were unarmed and for most people, no matter the circumstance, shooting unarmed people is hard to do...thankfully. If there was more to it than unwillingness to shoot unarmed people, then hopefully we'll learn that and security will be strengthened. What we do NOT want happening is US security personal getting super stressed over this and creating massacres of peaceful protest outside thier gates in an effort to keep something from happening. That would increase this nightmare of nation (and religious) relations.

 

[Master Dan]

I'm not going to critisize security at this point. In Lybia the attack came from outside the compound by rpg fire. In Egypt, those climbing the walls were unarmed and for most people, no matter the circumstance, shooting unarmed people is hard to do...thankfully. If there was more to it than unwillingness to shoot unarmed people, then hopefully we'll learn that and security will be strengthened. What we do NOT want happening is US security personal getting super stressed over this and creating massacres of peaceful protest outside thier gates in an effort to keep something from happening. That would increase this nightmare of nation (and religious) relations.

Peacfull outside the gate yes storming over the fence inside our teritory taking down the flag and raising thier own if they don't wish to be shot behave shoot them all.