Two Serious Problems

[ehsen]

I have two serious problems.

1. Whenever I continually punch for few seconds or any other extreme physical activity. My heart starts to run like crazy dog and obviosly I can't catch my breadth. Ok.. I admit i never been a sports guy but now I am interested in martial arts and please suggest me some exercise to fix this issue

(I am 20 years old and have no disease)

2. Second problem is very annoying. When my body heats up.... again when i perform an extreme physical activity, I start to feel severe itching on my body and specially in scalp.

Do you have any idea what's wrong with me.

 

[bluemtn]

Well, the itching is quite normal- I experience that every time I sweat a lot. The only thing I have that might remedy that, is a sweat band though. Otherwise, just give a brief scratch and go on.

Is it ok to assume that you've just started in martial arts? If you have, then the increased heart rate and shortness of breath is normal (to an extent, anyways). It could take a while to increase your endurance and stamina, which is the possible cause of what you're experiencing. You can work on increasing those 2, by running or jogging a bit in between days you have class. Start off slowly, gradually increasing how far or fast you run. You can also run in place as you watch t.v., working on jumping jacks can be helpful, too.

 

[LuzRD]

noones guessing can replace the advice of a doctor!
problem 1 you mentioned is enough reason to see a doctor, just to make sure your heart isnt going to explode. and while your there ask about the itchies.

 

[Jade Tigress]

Have you had a complete physical exam lately? Have you discussed the problem with your doctor?

 

[bluemtn]

noones guessing can replace the advice of a doctor!
problem 1 you mentioned is enough reason to see a doctor, just to make sure your heart isnt going to explode. and while your there ask about the itchies.

And what they said too...

 

[exile]

I have two serious problems.

1. Whenever I continually punch for few seconds or any other extreme physical activity. My heart starts to run like crazy dog and obviosly I can't catch my breadth. Ok.. I admit i never been a sports guy but now I am interested in martial arts and please suggest me some exercise to fix this issue

(I am 20 years old and have no disease)

2. Second problem is very annoying. When my body heats up.... again when i perform an extreme physical activity, I start to feel severe itching on my body and specially in scalp.

Do you have any idea what's wrong with me.

About 2, I've no suggestions. It might be a specific skin reaction to the salt left from your sweating; I've heard of that reaction. But about 1... it's simple: you need to increase your cardiovascular capacity a lot. The key is interval training: moderate jogging interspersed with very short intense sprint bursts. MAs put intermittant very high demands on your cardiovascular system, and you need to train for that variation. Intervals fit the bill perfectly. They're not very pleasant, but they are incredibly effective.

All this presupposes you've visited your physician and gotten a good, thorough physical. That's necessary no matter what your age, when you take up a demanding physical activity. Once you get the green light (as seems 100% certain, but you have to do it anyway!), try doing intervals twice a week. In two or three months, you'll find yourself breezing through your MA training sessions.

 

[Kacey]

Note:

Thread moved to Health Tips for the Martial Artists as more appropriate to your post, and more likely to generate appropriate and useful responses.

-Karen Cohn-
-MT Senior Moderator-

 

[Xue Sheng]

As to both problems - Go see a doctor.

Any other advice I would have would say when punching don't forget to breath properly, but with that said let me repeat

Go see a doctor.

 

[still learning]

Hello, It takes time to build up the heart,endurance,stamina. Everyone is right! ...if you feel your heart racing ...you better see your Doctor.

In the mean time...let your Teacher know...and you should rest and not train so hard.

After you talk to your Doctor follow there advice. Only than you will know what you should do in your training.

To become fit..top shape...comes in time (months..to years) depending on your training and what the Doctor recommends.

My daughter took up High school wrestling...at the end of three months..she was in top shape, lots of endurance and stamina. (never wrestle or any type of hard core training.) Took third place in her weight division for the Big Island.

Each person will react to the same training differently. For some others they may put lots of intensity, other less.........Aloha

 

[exile]

To become fit..top shape...comes in time (months..to years) depending on your training and what the Doctor recommends.

This is the fundamental truth, frustration and promise of training. It won't happen at once. You should think in terms of `100 days'. Any training program you engage in should show significant results—and I mean significant!—in three months and some change. Start slowly and gradually and go to the next threshhold when the one you're working at becomes too easy. Don't rush it, but don't stay at the same level of intensity when you're ready to move on. After 100 days, you will almost certainly be performing at a radically improved level...

... but get that physical and OK from your doctor first, y'hear??!!

 

[Sapper6]

ehsen,

obviously, heed to others advice in seeing a physician.

shortness of breath and excessive heartrate are elementary symptoms to exercise induced asthma.

the itchy skin is a condition all of its own. below is a link that covers both conditions.

http://walking.about.com/cs/med/a/sensitchylegs.htm

now go make a doctors appointment and call us in the morning.

 

[ehsen]

Thanks guys. There is nothing wrong with my heart (probably I didn't use right words in my post). I can jog continually for a long time. probably running is a good way to improve my stamina.

( my father is a doctor I don't need to meet someone else)

Itching is a huge issue I will see a skin specialist in a day or two.

thanks everybody for your advice.

 

[exile]

Thanks guys. There is nothing wrong with my heart (probably I didn't use right words in my post). I can jog continually for a long time. probably running is a good way to improve my stamina.

Jogging won't increase your respiratory capacity beyond a certain point, just as doing large numbers of reps with relatively light weight won't build strength. In both cases you need higher intensity so that you seriously overload your current capacity, if you want to make significant gains. Interval training is to cardio as the various high-intensity weight resistance programs are to strength training—far more efficient than moderate work done over a longer period. And as I mentioned, intervals mirror the fairly rapid alternation of high and low cardio demands you encounter in a typical MA training session. So it's an all-around good choice for MAists looking to improve their stamina...

 

[Shaderon]

I agree, if you can jog for a long time at a set pace but find yourself getting out of breath in a shorter more intense period, then you need to build your fitness up in shorter more intense periods. As Excile suggested Fartlek running might be a good thing for you to work with.

It's basically a Speed play running, you jog at your comfortable speed, then in short bursts do a quick run, then go back down to your comfortable speed. Build up your speeds and your running distances when you get comfortable doing this. You might actually find your comfortable jogging speed decreasing a little during this, it doesn't matter if this happens, it just means you are finding an effective "recovery" speed.

I've also found that if you have access to a rowing machine, rowing with the same kind of speed varience will have a similar effect but your arms also get a good workout as well.

 

[chinto01]

I have two serious problems.

1. Whenever I continually punch for few seconds or any other extreme physical activity. My heart starts to run like crazy dog and obviosly I can't catch my breadth. Ok.. I admit i never been a sports guy but now I am interested in martial arts and please suggest me some exercise to fix this issue

(I am 20 years old and have no disease)

2. Second problem is very annoying. When my body heats up.... again when i perform an extreme physical activity, I start to feel severe itching on my body and specially in scalp.

Do you have any idea what's wrong with me.

I would call the doctor on this before going any further.

In the spirit of bushido!

Rob

 

[exile]

I agree, if you can jog for a long time at a set pace but find yourself getting out of breath in a shorter more intense period, then you need to build your fitness up in shorter more intense periods. As Excile suggested Fartlek running might be a good thing for you to work with.

It's basically a Speed play running, you jog at your comfortable speed, then in short bursts do a quick run, then go back down to your comfortable speed. Build up your speeds and your running distances when you get comfortable doing this. You might actually find your comfortable jogging speed decreasing a little during this, it doesn't matter if this happens, it just means you are finding an effective "recovery" speed.

I've also found that if you have access to a rowing machine, rowing with the same kind of speed varience will have a similar effect but your arms also get a good workout as well.

These are good ideas, Shaderon. It's true, you don't have to restrict interval training to running; virtually any aerobic activity can be adapted to an interval format. My own favorite interval exercise is a moderate jog for 50 seconds, then an all out sprint for ten seconds, then back to the moderate jog for the next fifty seconds, and so on, for about twenty minutes. This particular form of intervals works best on an oval track with long straightaways; it's annoying to have to start a full sprint on the curved part of the course. It's quite grueling, and not something one looks forward to, but afterwards there is such a sense of virtue! And after a few weeks of doing this at most three times a week—more is too much, in my experience—you find that you can sustain a much higher level of energy output over a given period of time than you could before.

Just because it is so intense, it's really important that, no matter what the particular exercise you `intervalize' is, you get a physician's green light on it...

 

[ehsen]

You people are awesome. I joined many forums before but mostly people were rude there and instead of concentrating on my problem they start their own chit chat.

MartialTalk Rocks... :asian:

 

[exile]

You people are awesome. I joined many forums before but mostly people were rude there and instead of concentrating on my problem they start their own chit chat.

MartialTalk Rocks... :asian:

I agree, ehsen. This place is totally unique, not just in the MA cybersphere but in general, for virtually any interest or subject matter.

I think the essential quality of the place is this, that people view MT as an important resource in their ongoing MA education, and they hope that when they approach the board with their queries, they'll get help, guidance, insight,... the lot. So they're inclined to want to offer that themselves when they're approached. It seems to work quite well... plus, we have great moderators and mentors who work hard to keep the tone of things at least civil and on topic. That's another big reason why things work well here..

Glad you're having a good time hanging out on MT!

 

[bushidomartialarts]

doctor = very yes.

but also to reinforce xue. i'd bet a beer your trouble is your breathing.

lots of people hold their breath when they first start bag work. also sparring, kata. also any time they feel performance anxiety.

make certain you're breathing deeply and naturally the whole time you're punching. i think you'll find a huge difference.

 

[Grenadier]

Thanks guys. There is nothing wrong with my heart (probably I didn't use right words in my post). I can jog continually for a long time. probably running is a good way to improve my stamina.

Good to hear that your heart is OK. In this case, then, it's simply a matter of building up the correct kind of stamina. Yes, someone can run all day long, and be in great physical shape, but doing quick burst activities on a repeated basis, such as punching, kicking, etc., is going to condition your body in a different way.

Just be patient, and don't try to overdo it.