So I just seen a trailer on TV for "Saw V"........

[Andy Moynihan]

,,,,,and I'm thinking to myself.......WHY!?!?!?!?!?!!


The first one of them was at least good, the second was the point at which the series jumped the shark, and the third and fourth I couldn't even finish watching, the "torture porn" was so out there.


And bear in mind that I am a horror film FAN when I say this.

This **** can't even rightfully be considered horror, it's its own twisted thing( I heard it referred to as "torture porn" and finding the title accurate will stick with it).

I don't know which group has more parts broken upstairs--those involved with writing/shooting it, or those who will flock to see it.


Latter days of Rome, I'm tellin' ya.

 

[Sukerkin]

I quite concur, good sir.

On the one hand, freedom of artistic expression is a good thing and it is true that people, like me, can choose not to see such films. But the fact of their existence or, more accurately, that people want to create and watch them is a very worrying sign.

 

[Brian R. VanCise]

I've never seen any of the Saw films. After seeing the promo's it is just not my cup of thing. I love good horror flicks too but these well seem not that horror oriented.

 

[Andy Moynihan]

I quite concur, good sir.

On the one hand, freedom of artistic expression is a good thing and it is true that people, like me, can choose not to see such films. But the fact of their existence or, more accurately, that people want to create and watch them is a very worrying sign.

That and the fact creating more than 3 installments of ANY horror series went out of fashion in the 80's.

 

[MA-Caver]

I've never seen any of the Saw films. After seeing the promo's it is just not my cup of thing. I love good horror flicks too but these well seem not that horror oriented.

I can't say I don't blame you... but the first Saw film is really quite good in it's own right. Problem of the sequels was they were trying to top the choose or die devices rather than building upon the story line. Honestly the first movie deals with the mind rather than the body. It actually entices you to (mentally) ask yourself what would you do in that situation?
But of course the subsequent sequels threw the story out the window and became a "lookit what I thought of" fest. Pretty sad and gives true horror a bad name. But honestly like Se7en the first Saw was a mind bender. It's the only one I've seen and own.
Franchise sequels that could've been really great if in the hands of the best directors and writers (who obviously couldn't/wouldn't be bothered with this) would've been Friday the 13th, Nightmare, Halloween and possibly the Hellraiser series. All the original first films of these iconic films were great... their sequels basically ruined them all.
I like Horror and like many Americans, am starting to turn to the Japans for originality and creepy scares... They write good ghost stories to be sure, their American versions are just cheap carbon copies, i.e. Ring, The Grudge, The Eye and so forth. A really spine shuddering horror story is called "The Audition".... what that cute girl does is... *shudders* ... lets just say she makes Catherine Tramell from Basic Instinct look like a misbehaving pre-schooler. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0235198/
You might want to blame Tobe Hooper, George Romero and the rest of those guys for bringing on the gore-fest with their own iconic films (Tx. Chainsaw & the Dead series). Everyone seems to be looking for the biggest gross out rather than going cerebral which a truly good/great horror film would do.
Seems that folks forgotten what the differences between Horror and Terror. Alfred Hitchcock said once: "The difference between horror and terror is simple; Terror is being in a locked room with a group of people and knowing there is a bomb getting ready to go off. Horror is after the bomb goes off and you're the only one left alive."

 

[arnisador]

I saw 1-3. There's no need for more.

 

[tko4u]

I actually liked saw 1 through 3, 4 was ok, the thing they should have remembered, in a series, KEEP THE MAIN GUY ALIVE! haha, now I am sure they will go back in time, and make jigsaw still in there. I actually liked 3 better than 1 or 2.

 

[ArmorOfGod]

...and on one of VH1/MTV's reality shows right now, the winner gets a part in Saw 6. Saw 5 is about to hit theaters and part 6 is already in the works.
sad.

AoG

 

[grydth]

I have this vision of the "winner" excitedly calling every acquaintance they've got, " I WON!!!!! I'm going to be tortured, dismembered and killed IN A MOVIE!!!!!! "

I wonder if it is too late to open a business catering to/exploiting the hell out of sheeple who'd compete for such an honor.... can always get a bail out if I mess it up the first time around.... then head off to the spa to restructure....

 

[Fiendlover]

,,,,,and I'm thinking to myself.......WHY!?!?!?!?!?!!


The first one of them was at least good, the second was the point at which the series jumped the shark, and the third and fourth I couldn't even finish watching, the "torture porn" was so out there.


And bear in mind that I am a horror film FAN when I say this.

This **** can't even rightfully be considered horror, it's its own twisted thing( I heard it referred to as "torture porn" and finding the title accurate will stick with it).

I don't know which group has more parts broken upstairs--those involved with writing/shooting it, or those who will flock to see it.


Latter days of Rome, I'm tellin' ya.

i just saw the 5th one yesterday and i thought it was pretty good, there was no "torture porn" in this one. it was kind of confusng though if you havent seen the others recently.

 

[Cryozombie]

I like Horror and like many Americans, am starting to turn to the Japans for originality and creepy scares... They write good ghost stories to be sure, their American versions are just cheap carbon copies, i.e. Ring, The Grudge, The Eye and so forth. A really spine shuddering horror story is called "The Audition".... what that cute girl does is... *shudders* ... lets just say she makes Catherine Tramell from Basic Instinct look like a misbehaving pre-schooler. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0235198/
You might want to blame Tobe Hooper, George Romero and the rest of those guys for bringing on the gore-fest with their own iconic films (Tx. Chainsaw & the Dead series).

2 things 'Caver... Audition was fairly tame compared to some asian horror I have seen/have.

Secondly... Those Gore films were never Romero's intent... its what got popularized. The orginal Night was meant as a political piece, as was "knightriders" but it was his Gore that sold, so thats what he continued to make. I personally don't BLAME him for the genre, IMO its was later films that really took it in that direction... You can't even blame Texas Chainsaw for that. Anyone who thinks the original Chainsaw was a gore-fest is fooling themselves... there was almost none in the film... go back and watch it again. Tobe Hooper did a commanding job making you THINK about it, without ever showing it. I aspire to be that good someday.

 

[shihansmurf]

All of the SAW films are starting to blend into on movie to me. I'm not sure what events are from which movie.

Now if they were to adapt a pithy naming convention like

SAW V: JIGSAW
SAW VI: BANDSAW
SAW VII: COPINGSAW
SAW VII: RECIPROCATING SAW

and so forth I could probably get into them.

Mark