Progress , for progress' sake?

[Haris Lamboo Faisal]

A question to some of the instructors and students , In training , do you think you should train to make progress for its own sake , or do you move on when you think you have a good enough grip on a particular technique , that you are satisfied moving on , i prefer the second personally but that's just my opinion , i ususally never move on unless i understand most of it. or well enough to move on.

 

[Dirty Dog]

Progress should always be based on ability to perform the techniques already learned. It does no good to advance a student just because they've been X rank for Y time. If they haven't learned the earlier material, they won't be able to properly learn the new, since it builds on prior knowledge.

 

[Haris Lamboo Faisal]

hmm well i can say from experience that it is very hard to judge one's individual progress but in those cases i mostly go back to the tried and true method of implementation and testing , if something works well i can usually tell by just drilling it a few times and seeing the result on my partners and myself , if no apparent result is visible or if the technique is wrong Keep working at it , if not then you obviously have room to take on the next step , but i'm not usually satisfied with anything tbh nor do i overthink things just try to keep balanced.

 

[WC_lun]

If I don't really know a concept or excercise completely, how in the world do I know it well enough to "progress"? Focus on learning. Progression will follow.

 

[Haris Lamboo Faisal]

If I don't really know a concept or excercise completely, how in the world do I know it well enough to "progress"? Focus on learning. Progression will follow.

Hmm well as time passes you find more and more avenues of learning and when you dont have a live teacher but you have a dedicated group willing to learn it becomes somewhat interesting to progress , ofcourse , Understanding things on your own can be tiring but when you have a group it seems easier and certianly alot more fun , And so we learn , slowly but correctly. We started working and hopefully all of us will be in a position that allows us to travel and train for atleast 3 weeks or hopefully a month.

 

[Cyriacus]

Read your Own Signature?

*Clears throat*
Different People Train for Different Reasons.
Im sure some People just Train for Progress.
I Train with the Intention of Practitioning at a High Level.

 

[Domino]

I see those who want to run before they can crawl but it was explained to me the road is long and in a year a student can make only a few steps on their path, I like this analogy, no need to rush along imo.

I guess this can depend on if you have grading and curriculum too.

 

[naneek]

the road is long but it keeps stretching on infront of us no matter how long we walk it - there is always more to learn and it more about the journey than the destination in my opinion, i will never reach a really high level but still enjoy the journey for what it offers me.

 

[Haris Lamboo Faisal]

i kept wondering how i could best explain it since i had a somewhat clear answer in my mind but the question was blurry anyway i think typing this out will take a really long time so i'll just stick to and easier method i must warn you its me ranting a good twelve minutes about progress and goal setting and some of my views and beliefs about progress ... anyway here's what i've come up with so far ....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UXEeq6Douw

START WATCHING FROM 8:30 MARK

 

[Haris Lamboo Faisal]

Read your Own Signature?

*Clears throat*
Different People Train for Different Reasons.
Im sure some People just Train for Progress.
I Train with the Intention of Practitioning at a High Level.

I train with the intention of training to perfection because it is simple and because it is unique to every individual!

 

[wtxs]

In training , do you think you should train to make progress for its own sake

Answer to your question, this applies to all endeavors, training without progression = waste of time ... progression is the product of proper training. Don't train for the sake of progress.

I train with the intention of training to perfection because it is simple and because it is unique to every individual!

I do admire your intention, however ... by nature of the beast, human has many flaws, therefore we can't attain perfection ... try as we may.

 

[Haris Lamboo Faisal]

Answer to your question, this applies to all endeavors, training without progression = waste of time ... progression is the product of proper training. Don't train for the sake of progress.



I do admire your intention, however ... by nature of the beast, human has many flaws, therefore we can't attain perfection ... try as we may.

I'll get as close as i possibly can

 

[David43515]

Marc MacYoung and Trisan Sustrino (SP?) wrote a whole book about fixing the problems that come from this. They reffered to it as the "1-2-3-7-8-9 syndrome", moving on when you think you`re ready but you really aren`t.