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Why Kung fu is the ultimate martial art.
By Jiu-fu fighter - Mon, 01 Jan 2007 08:10:07 GMT
Originally Posted at: Deluxe Forums

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I had a very interesting talk with a high ranking kung fu teacher today, and I have to say it was very rewarding and enlightening.

I am sure that many of us see kung fu as a rather ineffective martial art or stands no chance against the other MMA's that you would see in the ufc.

but the fact is:

Kung fu is a martial art that takes a lot of time and energy , blood and sweat, to become a master at it. unlike say boxing which can be learned in a much shorter time.
Kung fu is all about being one with the world, flowing with nature. boxing does not teach this at all, kung fu teaches one how to meditate and focus the mind being able to relax the body and internalise ones own chi

we all know that the power of the mind is unbelievable, just think of a time that you have been really really angry or in a rage, did you not have unbelievable strength and stamina? yes you did, why you may ask?
because your mind was totally focused on that anger and was able to start functioning at a higher rate than is the norm.
kung fu can teach one how to gain more control of ones mind and with that the possibilities are endless.
boxing or muay thai has very little or no emphasis on the spiritual side of the martial arts, it is a well known fact that a much looser and more relaxed martial artist will be quicker and more powerful of that who is always tense (just another example of what relaxing parts of meditation can do)

if you look at the shaolin monks, what they do is unbelievable, they are always so calm and at peace, but they can jump higher than any man, kick harder, punch harder, break stones on their bodies, break stones with their bare hands.. no mma man could do this
they have discovered and unharnessed the power of the mind, once you control the mind, nothing is impossible.

Kung fu definetly has more moves to learn than say boxing, muay thai, kickboxing, and takes much longer to learn, which is why an amateur boxer would beat an amateur kung fu man. because the boxer just practices only a few select moves over and over and over,
but to learn kung fu takes much more dedication and time, which already shows the strength and willpower of the person, by the time you have learned all these moves, you have already won half the battle by inner strength alone.
Kung fu may be viewed as much more complicated , but it should be viewed as an art of more possibilities.

you may argue that no kung fu man has ever made it against a ufc man, the fact is , a real kung fu man is enlightened and at peace he would not use his art to fight for show he is already far above all other martial artists and does not have to prove himself, those who you see that have been beaten are those that have gone looking for a fight or action and therefore have little skill or knowledge.

yes, I am expecting some serious debate on this one, but I hope that through all my ramblings you will learn something just like I have


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I trainined for a couple months with Chris Hientzman a Kung fu only MMA fighter. Something interesting he said is that during a MMA fight a fighter who fights with Kung fu looks to have the same moves as a muay thai/jujitsu UFC fighter because when you go all out in a fight you are not going to look like you do doing a form.

In the photo Chris is the one on top admistering the beating to Mark "the shark".

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Akron, Ohio Tournament - Fists Against Hunger

3/29/2005 --
On March 18th, 2005 David Chin's Kung Fu Center participated in the Fists Against Hunger Competition atthe J. S. Knight Center in Akron, OH. Representing Sifu Chin's school were Chris Hientzman, Robert Bradley, and Steve Breedlove. While all three performed admirably, it was Chris Hientzman's bout in the Heavyweight Division against Mark "The Shark" Miller that provided the most interest: "The Shark" was a formidable opponent with an impressive fight record of 16 fights, 4 losses, and 10 wins by K.O. Chris Hientzman, however, remained in control throughout the match and one minute twenty-seven seconds later won the bout by TKO.
A practitioner of Tibetan Hop Gar and Kuo Lien Ying - Yang style T'ai Chi, Mr. Hientzman teaches both disciplines in Fayetteville and Pittsboro, NC under the auspices of Grandmaster David Chin. He has also fought in many full contact competitions, but the bout in Ohio marks his formal entrance into the professional fighting ring. The bout also gave him the opportunity to demonstrate that coming from a "Kung Fu only" school is not a hindrance, and that Kung Fu stylists can be formidable opponents, deserving their place in the professional arena.

Here is a link to more of the fight photos.
http://www.realhopgar.com/pr01.htm


 
you may argue that no kung fu man has ever made it against a ufc man, the fact is , a real kung fu man is enlightened and at peace he would not use his art to fight for show he is already far above all other martial artists and does not have to prove himself, those who you see that have been beaten are those that have gone looking for a fight or action and therefore have little skill or knowledge.

This is the central debate in the world of martial arts today. Where do we draw the line with unsupported claims? Will we draw it early and strongly, and demand proof for everything? Will we tolerate traditional claims, but chastise the modern TMAs for making similar ones? Will we uncritically tolerate anything, and just let the frauds run free?
 
Honestly, it's a pretty stupid title. First, there is no single martial art of "Kung Fu". There is a bewildering array of martial arts from China. Second, there is no "ultimate martial art" except maybe sumito or sinanju. At least not in the real world.
 
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