Bush program helped lay the groundwork in Egypt

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Bush program helped lay the groundwork in Egypt

By Farah Stockman Globe Staff / February 13, 2011 Boston Globe EXCERPT:
WASHINGTON — A small, controversial effort launched under President George W. Bush to fund and train election monitors in Egypt played a key role in the movement to topple President Hosni Mubarak’s regime.

The program, which provided millions in direct funding to prodemocracy groups, helped dispatch 13,000 volunteers to observe Egypt’s parliamentary elections in December. Thousands of those monitors, angered by what they said was blatant election rigging, joined the protests. Some became outspoken leaders; others used the networking and communication skills they learned to help coordinate 18 days of rallies.

“The very fact that they saw the fraud firsthand has contributed to them turning from monitors into activists,’’ said Saad Eddin Ibrahim, founder of the Ibn Khaldun Center for Development Studies, which has used a share of the US funds to train volunteers. “They became very disillusioned with the regime.’’

The evolving role of the monitors provides a measure of vindication for Bush administration officials and allies, including Elizabeth Cheney, the daughter of Vice President Dick Cheney, who fought for permission to funnel money to the monitors, bucking a longstanding US policy of giving Egypt a veto over US funds.

“I certainly feel vindicated,’’ said Charles King Mallory IV, a former aide to Elizabeth Cheney, who could not be reached for comment.

But it also raises questions about whether some Egyptians will see a grain of truth in Mubarak’s allegations that “foreign intervention’’ fomented the uprising.

Stephen McInerney, executive director of the Project on Middle East Democracy, a Washington-based advocacy and research group, said the protesters would probably still have been active without US support, but they wouldn’t be as well-organized.

“We didn’t fund them to start protests, but we did help support their development of skills and networking,’’ he said.

Mahmoud Ali Mohamed, head of the Egyptian Association for Supporting Democracy, the largest election monitoring organization in Egypt, said his monitors were dispatched to Tahrir Square on the first day of the protests to document attacks on demonstrators.

As the protests grew, he opened an operations room from which 320 volunteers took tips from the public about abuses by progovernment forces, and he wrote press releases publicizing attacks and arrests. Now his group is considering launching lawsuits against those who killed or hurt protesters.
 
Let's give that revolution time to settle.

As they say back in my country: You count your cows in fall....
 
He wouldn't be the first US president responsible for a military coup somewhere in the world. He surely won't be the the last.
 
Good for Bush, well done. Now, given that, why are today's conservatives so against this revolution?
 
Good for Bush, well done. Now, given that, why are today's conservatives so against this revolution?

Have you seen any independent analysis on why partisans and media in the US are so pro or con revolt in Egypt? I would like to better undertand the angles being played.
 
Have you seen any independent analysis on why partisans and media in the US are so pro or con revolt in Egypt? I would like to better undertand the angles being played.

Usually because when they fund these projects, they're thinking that the people will overthrow their tyrannical overlords and establish a working democracy that ushers in an era of peace, prosperity, and Starbucks. Then, when the fit hits the shan, they discover that the people are going to vote for the really, really tyrannical overlords because they ran on the ever-popular "Death to USA and Israel" campaign.
 
Good for Bush, well done. Now, given that, why are today's conservatives so against this revolution?

Most of what I had heard from that side has been the typical "ZOMG, MUSLIMS WILL TAKE CONTROL AND KILL US ALL" rant.
 
What happens when the Egyptian populace democratically elects the Muslim Brotherhood?
 
What happens when the Egyptian populace democratically elects the Muslim Brotherhood?


Then the conservatives who lauded the revolution will call for a swift strike to whipe them off the face of the earth...
 
What happens when the Egyptian populace democratically elects the Muslim Brotherhood?

No problem. President Obama's Director of National Intelligence says they are a secular, non-violent, secular group. Will they put a constitution in place that helps protect the people from mob rule?
 
Let's give that revolution time to settle.

As they say back in my country: You count your cows in fall....
As has been said in Boston (Massachusetts) political wisdom:

No good deed goes unpunished.

:uhohh:
 
As has been said in Boston (Massachusetts) political wisdom:

No good deed goes unpunished.

:uhohh:

LOL, that's not political wisdom (which is a contradiction in terms anyway)

That's more like common knowledge (though that is somewhat an odd term in itself...)
 
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