Battle of the martial arts YouTubers (Ultimate Self Defense Championship) Episode 3,
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I posted the same video, then realized you beat me to it by 30 minutes, so I deleted my thread.
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I enjoyed this episode, reminds me all horror movies - lets split and die. And theoretical kick was brilliant.
Not sure what the rules were for this scenario, but it would seem that none of them thought to arm themselves….
Also the problem I have with running away to a simple fixed point is that the world doesn’t work like that and in reality there will be a longer chase with an undefined end point
Fun video ‘though
Also the problem I have with running away to a simple fixed point is that the world doesn’t work like that and in reality there will be a longer chase with an undefined end point
Fun video ‘though
God forbid they have some sort of rules so it’s not just never ending…
This is like the stupidest issue to have.
People like you love to try to make self defense or self protection seem like some ephemeral or abstract event.
If someone is chasing you there’s often a fairly reliable end point near by in the form of an open business like a gas station or really any well populated location.
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Do you disagree that making use of improvised weapons would have been a better strategy for the guys to have taken?
Also tragically there are a lot of examples of people being chased down and stabbed in very public places, inside shops, shopping malls etc etc. Perhaps my perspective is skewed and this is just a London thing, but I doubt it
There were also some statistics from the London A&E (ER to our friends in the US) about stabbing survival statistics that were quite revealing in this regard and suggest that running is not the panacea that it’s often touted to be. I posted them a while ago on another thread, but will try and dig it out
Not sure what you mean by
I don’t think I view self defence as ephemeral or abstract, but could you elaborate on this a but more?
Thanks
Oh geez go figure someone on the internet doesn’t understand nuance.
Did I say if you get to a public place you’re 100% guaranteed to be safe? No. People committing crimes often don’t want witnesses, so people committing crimes often won’t follow a victim into a business with not only witnesses, but cameras.
As for running, I myself have been the safe zone at work having had multiple people on separate occasions run to me looking for safety because they were being followed, and go figure the person following stopped and went away 100% of the time.
As for improvised weapons, maybe, maybe not. Depends on what the weapon is, but considering the goal of the drill/game/scenario was not to focus on getting weapons to fight back, and that each group was out numbered 2:1 an improvised weapon against 2-3 armed attackers is probably a much worse outcome than trying to out run them.
As for running, I agree, running isn’t the end all be all of self defense. Sometimes it’s your job not to run. Sometimes you have children or elders who can’t keep up, sometimes you’re just slower, or don’t have the cardio to escape. Just like I’ve posted compliance doesn’t guarantee that you’ll get away safely, neither does running.
I’m sick of people who really have no actual experience with self defense trying to talk like they’re experts.
Oh man I'm sorry if my posts are annoying, not my intention
My point was that the drill clearly showed that running away in that situation doesn't work that well, but it seemed that the drill was structured to encourage that response
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Yes the drill was structured for people to run.
Drills are not supposed to always end in a positive result. If they do either the drill is poorly designed or the partner(s) aren’t doing their job well enough.
Every situation has variables, in this example one of those variables is that the YTers were completely ignorant of the lay of the land aside from their initial impressions, meanwhile the attackers knew the building and the layout of the exterior.
You seem to be completely missing the entire point of honestly conducted drills and exercises. To show what works for the individual, what doesn’t, and thus what needs to be worked on.
So what lesson did they / we learn from the drill?
You can’t divine any lessons learned? They specifically cite some of the lessons in the video.
Learned? Nothing it just reinforced things I already knew/suspected.
Which were?
I don't like the idea of running at all. I like the idea to make your opponent to run away from you instead.
Ok tough guy.
It has nothing to do with toughness or not. It's the attitude whether one has the courage to stand on the ground and fight for what he believes is right or not.
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