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WARNING! Adult language.
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Adult language maybe, but not very adult behavior.
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WARNING! Adult language.
Seriously, yeah it'd be better to let this kinda foolishness go, but sometimes you're mad as hell, and can't take it anymore.
Kind of the way I felt about it also. I hate to use the term old man , but he did walk away. It seems the young guy just couldn't let it go.I'm still waitin' to see the kid put his foot up that ***. :lol:
Maybe after he comes back from his ambulance ride...?
Seriously, yeah it'd be better to let this kinda foolishness go, but sometimes you're mad as hell, and can't take it anymore.
Kind of the way I felt about it also. I hate to use the term old man , but he did walk away. It seems the young guy just couldn't let it go.
Your right Bill, I was cutting the old guy some slack because of the age difference, but after a second look at the video it was a bad situation all around.He walked away, but kept running his mouth and issuing threats. Both of them were fools looking for trouble, IMHO.
Do you think that maybe our society is the way it is because everyone usually just walks away? People runoff with the mouth and those being insulted or threatened become the meek little lamb waiting for the slaughter so the bully's of the earth continue to do their thing.
The conversation that started this may have been wrong but,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,when you lay a hand on another be ready to recieve what they have for you.
This old man may have fought for this country and like many others is just fed up with the men like the one on the bus that seem to run the mouth and intimidate those that "seem" like an easy target.
We all see things differently.
The losers here are the passengers who had to deal with it and who also might have been hurt in the scuffle. I'll bet that if a police officer had witnessed the event, they'd both be in jail.
Absolutely, I'm with you on this, Bill. These two characters placed other people in jeopardy with their actions. Very sad commentary that anyone one on the bus found this episode entertaining.
This is what I see, too. Yeah, far better to avoid, but if push comes to shove, well...I detest bullies.... so the bully's of the earth continue to do their thing.
Now this is a very valid point indeed.The conversation that started this may have been wrong but,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,when you lay a hand on another be ready to receive what they have for you.
We all see things differently.
The above is also true Bill, but if the old white guy was looking for a fight he would have put it to an end in the back of the bus, he, moved away first.I think once the older guy got punched by the black guy, he had no choice but to defend himself.
I also think it didn't have to get to that point. The older white guy was running his mouth, and making threats, even from the front of the bus. If he had sat down and shut up, the black guy would not have come over and punched him. They were both looking for a fight and they found one. The losers here are the passengers who had to deal with it and who also might have been hurt in the scuffle. I'll bet that if a police officer had witnessed the event, they'd both be in jail.
AgreedTheres not enough information to say anymore about this situation then what has already been said.
They were both idiots.
Yes accidents can happen, and the bus was an inconvenience for you, but it was the laying on of hands that made all the difference.Years ago, I tried taking the bus to work every day instead of driving. The drive was about 30 minutes, but I had to pay for gas and parking. The bus was about 2 hours, and saved me a bit of money. I tried it for about a month. The first week, I got hit by a cane wielded by a drunken wino who was fighting with another bum. The second week, another wino threw up on my (and other people's) shoes. When my bus pass expired, so did my patience for riding the bus.
Yes, and down the road the old guy may get his, if in fact he is a bully. Or, maybe he is just an old guy sick of all the bull crap.This is what I see, too. Yeah, far better to avoid, but if push comes to shove, well...I detest bullies.
The above is also true Bill, but if the old white guy was looking for a fight he would have put it to an end in the back of the bus, he, moved away first.
Well you went and did it again, didn't you, Bill. That is an awesome assessment of the situation. worded very well. I have no choice but to shut up, and get myself off to work. Have a great day.Based on seeing this kind of crap over and over in my life, I think I have some level of understanding of it. I don't know how the altercation started, since the person filming kind of picked it up after words had been thrown already.
However, both individuals were of a certain type. The type that will bluster and not generally fight. They talk trash, but almost always don't do anything about it.
With an audience, however, things change. Neither man could back down without losing face. The older white guy moved to the front of the bus, true, but he continued making statements loud enough to be heard about kicking the younger black guy's ***. The passengers nearest the young black guy egged him on, and he knew he was going to look weak if he didn't take action at that point. So he walked up front and took a swing. I'm sure he didn't expect to get beaten, and I'm sure the older white guy didn't think the younger black guy would come up and throw a punch at him. The entire event was calculated by both parties to let them run their mouths and not lose face by seeming to back down.
It's schoolyard 101. Two kids face off, and neither of them really wants to duke it out, but now that they've gotten themselves into this situation by tossing words around and attracted attention, it has to get physical or someone will lose face. Neither one of them mature enough to just let it go and to heck with losing face. Push me, shove you. Oh good Lord.
I know hindsight is 20/20, but if I put myself in the situation of the guy who walked up to the front of the bus, if it had been me, I'd have kept my mouth shut as the other guy threatened to kick my ***, even assuming it had gotten that far. Having taken a seat up front, I'd have kept my mouth shut. And there would have been no problem. Yeah, I'd be a 'chicken' and a 'coward', but I really don't care what random strangers on a bus think of me.
I have a couple of younger sisters who used to beat each other up regularly. It was like All-Star Wrestling in my parent's house. Both had mouths on them, and neither one would ever back down. It was always "I don't have to take that crap from her" and whammo. Neither one knew how to back down, neither one was capable of walking away. "I'm not going to let her get the last word," or "I'm not going to back down to that *****" was all I ever heard. From both of them. And I see it with these two doofuses on the bus. We're a nation of five-year-olds.
I told my sisters a long time ago, and it's still true: If someone says something nasty or threatening to you and you respond, you just got owned. They made you do something they wanted you to do. How's it feel to be a beyotch, because they just made you theirs?
I can't control what other people do. But I can control what I do. Words don't harm me in any way. If a person threatens me and I believe them, I may walk away, or I may begin defending myself at that moment, depending on whether or not I think I can walk away safely. But I'm not going to issue threats as I walk away and hope my ego will feel better and random strangers on a bus won't think I'm a coward.