102 Things NOT To Do If You Hate Taxes

[MA-Caver]

This is the top 20

1. Do not use Medicare.
2. Do not use Social Security
3. Do not become a member of the US military, who are paid with tax dollars.
4. Do not ask the National Guard to help you after a disaster.
5. Do not call 911 when you get hurt.
6. Do not call the police to stop intruders in your home.
7. Do not summon the fire department to save your burning home.
8. Do not drive on any paved road, highway, and interstate or drive on any bridge.
9. Do not use public restrooms.
10. Do not send your kids to public schools.
11. Do not put your trash out for city garbage collectors.
12. Do not live in areas with clean air.
13. Do not drink clean water.
14. Do not visit National Parks.
15. Do not visit public museums, zoos, and monuments.
16. Do not eat or use FDA inspected food and medicines.
17. Do not bring your kids to public playgrounds.
18. Do not walk or run on sidewalks.
19. Do not use public recreational facilities such as basketball and tennis courts.
20. Do not seek shelter facilities or food in soup kitchens when you are homeless and hungry.
Full list here http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/05/18/102-things-not-to-do-if-you-hate-taxes/

It does give a good perspective I think of what our taxes are paying or... or supposed to pay for instead of lining pockets and killing people in far-away lands to help them find democracy so they can pay taxes on the same things that we pay taxes for.
They're a necessary evil so to speak. But when the money is misappropriated or not used for what it's intended... that's when I get pissed off.

 

[billc]

Well, to start with, all of the above are funded by taxes that are extracted from the citizens through the threat, and application of force, so "hate" taxes or not you are forced to pay for those things. Some of them are constitutional mandates and some are preformed at the state level. Expecting government to only do the barest of things with our tax dollars only makes sense. They do all of the above poorly at best and tragically at worst. Hmmm...medicare and social security, once again, can't opt out, but those could eventually be removed as a government activity. Public schools, well, they take taxes from people, even when the people home school or send their kids to private or religous schools, so unless you want to pay twice to educate your kids, once to the state, and once to the private school, most people have to go to public schools. Taxes should be the bare minimum to take care of those things mandated by the constituion of the U.S. and the various state constitutions, and any excess should be returned to the tax payers.

 

[granfire]

Well, to start with, all of the above are funded by taxes that are extracted from the citizens through the threat, and application of force, so "hate" taxes or not you are forced to pay for those things. Some of them are constitutional mandates and some are preformed at the state level. Expecting government to only do the barest of things with our tax dollars only makes sense. They do all of the above poorly at best and tragically at worst. Hmmm...medicare and social security, once again, can't opt out, but those could eventually be removed as a government activity. Public schools, well, they take taxes from people, even when the people home school or send their kids to private or religous schools, so unless you want to pay twice to educate your kids, once to the state, and once to the private school, most people have to go to public schools. Taxes should be the bare minimum to take care of those things mandated by the constituion of the U.S. and the various state constitutions, and any excess should be returned to the tax payers.

:lfao:
did you drive today?

And frankly, I think the internet ought to be on the list as well, after all Al Gore invented it....

 

[ETinCYQX]

Mr. Foster (author of the article) is an idiot.

 

[granfire]

Mr. Foster (author of the article) is an idiot.

Maybe.
But he does have a few good points:
You can't condemn taxes when you reap the benefits of government work funded by taxes.

While most of the list can be avoided, most people spend more time on the road than their taxes would allow them if it was billed that way.
And while a school seems less than secondary in importance when you don't have kids, you run into the products of the local school system where ever you go, in relatively unimportant places like the checkout at the discounter or more importantly at the production end of your fast food joint. It would be nice if they can read the sign that prompts them to wash hands...not to mention future professionals of importance, like that doctor fighting with medicare/aid after he treated you....

 

[Empty Hands]

At least know what you're arguing about folks. It's mostly old people, guns, and then health/security for the poor, in that order.

 

[granfire]

At least know what you're arguing about folks. It's mostly old people, guns, and then health/security for the poor, in that order.

Relatively unimportant.
Everyday we use things that have been paid by the community, not by us, by means of taxes.
The cry for lesser and fewer taxes usually dies the moment one needs to actively pursuit benefits like social security or unemployment benefits. 'because I deserve it'
The staples of streets or such benign things like utilities and such under ground go largely unnoticed in the benefit department. And usually only in the 'damn pot holes' category.

You got waste water past septic tank? It's communal, AKA tax money, city water (however nasty tasting)....
Library? yep, check.
The things being paid for are generally not visible, thus easy to forget. Freedom is not free (though I have doubts on the effectiveness of the defense line in the farther middle east...)

 

[ETinCYQX]

Maybe.
But he does have a few good points:
You can't condemn taxes when you reap the benefits of government work funded by taxes.

While most of the list can be avoided, most people spend more time on the road than their taxes would allow them if it was billed that way.
And while a school seems less than secondary in importance when you don't have kids, you run into the products of the local school system where ever you go, in relatively unimportant places like the checkout at the discounter or more importantly at the production end of your fast food joint. It would be nice if they can read the sign that prompts them to wash hands...not to mention future professionals of importance, like that doctor fighting with medicare/aid after he treated you....

I've honestly never heard of that being a strictly Republican thing. The way the article is written is just an anti-Conservative bash fest IMO

 

[billc]

Hating taxes is not the same as wanting to limit what government does, which is what the conservative position is. The more the government takes in taxes, the less freedom we have as indivual actors. There are some things that have to ge done by the government, but those should be limited and tightly controlled, the military, police, fire, roads, and what exactly those things are, outside of constitutional mandates are up to the voters. The federal government should not be involved in education, each state should take care of that, for example and it shouldn't be involved in social security or medicar either. If the voters of a state want to set that up, under our system they can, but the feds should be out of that business.

 

[MaxiMe]

:lfao:
did you drive today?

And frankly, I think the internet ought to be on the list as well, after all Al Gore invented it....

"poorly at best and tragically at worst" Yup and I got my teeth in my pocket and a bad tires to prove it :drinkbeer